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		<title>Michael Horton on Schism as Heresy</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Michael Horton Michael Horton is the editor-in-chief of Modern Reformation, co-host of the White Horse Inn radio program, and the J. Gresham Machen Professor of Systematic Theology and Apologetics at Westminster Seminary California. Recently on the White Horse Inn blog Michael Horton wrote about the nature of schism. He wrote a post titled &#8220;Have Denominations [...]]]></description>
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<strong>Michael Horton</strong></div>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Michael Horton is the editor-in-chief of <em>Modern Reformation</em>, co-host of the White Horse Inn radio program, and the <a href="http://wscal.edu/academics/faculty-bio/michael-s-horton" target="_blank">J. Gresham Machen Professor of Systematic Theology and Apologetics</a> at Westminster Seminary California. Recently on the White Horse Inn blog Michael Horton wrote about the nature of schism.<span id="more-9260"></span></p>
<p>He wrote a post titled &#8220;<a href="http://www.whitehorseinn.org/blog/2011/09/17/have-denominations-had-their-day/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Have Denominations Had Their Day?</a>,&#8221; in which he responded to a post by <em>Christianity Today</em> contributor Ed Stetzer titled &#8220;<a href="http://www.edstetzer.com/2011/09/do-denominations-matter.html" target="_blank">Do Denominations Matter?</a>.&#8221; Stetzer thinks that denominations are important for pragmatic reasons, namely, that by working together Christians can accomplish much more than by working alone. Horton agrees that denominations matter, but not merely because working together is more efficient or useful. Horton writes:</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">Scripture’s focus is on what God is doing rather than on what we are doing. The Triune God is saving sinners through preaching and sacrament. There is “one holy catholic and apostolic church” not because individual believers realized that they could more effectively reach the world and accomplish their goals in tandem. Rather, this church exists because of the Father’s eternal election of a people, the Son’s mediation and saving work for them, and the Spirit’s work of uniting them to Christ through the gospel. We are recipients of a kingdom; the Father is the builder, by his Son and Spirit, through the Word.</p>
<p>Therefore, there really is one church—catholic, spread throughout the world yet united in one Lord, one faith, one baptism—even though its visible shape right now seems to speak against it. Same thing with the holiness of the church: holy in Christ, it is nevertheless “simultaneously justified and sinful.”</p></blockquote>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Horton&#8217;s point is that there is only &#8220;one holy catholic and apostolic Church&#8221; not because Christians thought it would be more useful and effective to work together, but because &#8220;of the Father’s eternal election of a people, the Son’s mediation and saving work for them, and the Spirit’s work of uniting them to Christ through the gospel.&#8221; However, merely electing, redeeming and [covenantally] uniting persons to Christ does not entail the existence of a Church; it merely entails the existence of persons elected, redeemed and united to Christ. So Hortons&#8217;s &#8220;Therefore, there really is one church-catholic&#8221; does not follow. (See &#8220;<a href="http://www.calledtocommunion.com/2009/09/why-protestantism-has-no-visible-catholic-church/" target="_blank">Why Protestantism has no &#8220;visible catholic Church&#8221;</a>.&#8221;) Christ did something in addition to offering Himself on the cross, and sending His Spirit; He founded a Church, and gave its keys to St. Peter. Cf. Mt. 16:18-19.<sup><a href="http://www.calledtocommunion.com/2011/10/michael-horton-on-schism-as-heresy/#footnote_0_9260" id="identifier_0_9260" class="footnote-link footnote-identifier-link" title=" See &amp;#8220;Christ Founded a Visible Church.&amp;#8221; ">1</a></sup> Because Horton&#8217;s conclusion does not follow, this makes Horton&#8217;s claim irrelevant to the question of denominations. If by &#8220;church-catholic&#8221; Horton simply means all the elect, this has no implications regarding whether there should be only one denomination, many denominations, or no denominations.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">In his statement Horton makes use of the Lutheran/Reformed notion of <em>simul iustus et peccator</em> [simultaneously justified and sinful] to defend his claim that &#8220;there really is one church—catholic, spread throughout the world yet united in one Lord, one faith, one baptism—even though its visible shape right now seems to speak against it.&#8221; In other words, just as in Reformed soteriology a believer is perfectly justified by <em>extra nos</em> imputation even while that person remains full of wickedness and eternally damnable sins, so in Reformed ecclesiology the &#8220;church-catholic&#8221; is perfectly united spiritually and invisibly even while visibly divided into thousands of factions.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">The problem with the claim of <em>simul iustus et peccator</em> is that it makes God capable of self-deception or schizophrenia, as I have explained elsewhere.<sup><a href="http://www.calledtocommunion.com/2011/10/michael-horton-on-schism-as-heresy/#footnote_1_9260" id="identifier_1_9260" class="footnote-link footnote-identifier-link" title=" See comment #83 in the &amp;#8220;Habitual Sin and the Grace of the Sacraments&amp;#8221; post. ">2</a></sup> It also allows us to believe a falsehood, by appealing to the power of God to declare to be true what is simultaneously in fact not true. But that would not be a power on God&#8217;s part; that would be a weakness, i.e. an inability to speak only the truth. Moreover, this position devalues and dismisses the physical and material actions of men, and of sects, since the only thing that counts is the invisible and spiritual. What follows from this position is that sin in our heart and body does not matter (i.e. does not affect our salvation in any way), because in no way does it detract from God&#8217;s immutable forensic declaration proleptically revealing His declaration concerning us on the Day of Judgment. Of course this theology stipulates that good fruit should follow, just like it stipulates that visible unity should follow. But no length or severity of visible division falsifies the posited invisible union, because according to this ecclesiology visible union is not essential to the invisible [covenantal] union with Christ all believers possess, just as according to this soteriology holiness of life is not essential to the invisible forensic <em>extra nos</em> justification enjoyed by all believers.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">For this reason, this position entails that schisms between believers are not in themselves sinful or evil, because they do not detract from the invisible unity between Christ and every believer; they only (sometimes) hurt the Christian cause in the pragmatic ways Stetzer notes. According to this notion, the truth is in the invisible realm of the divine declaration, even when the condition in the material, visible world is exactly the opposite. The same nominalism that leads to a gnostic conception of justification leads likewise to a gnostic ecclesiogy in which the visible and material is unimportant and ultimately irrelevant. Because merely electing, redeeming and [covenantally] uniting persons to Christ does not entail the existence of a Church, what Horton refers to as the &#8220;church-catholic&#8221; is impervious to any condition on earth, nor does this ecclesiology entail any condition on earth, so long as one or more persons are [covenantally] united to Christ.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">But I wanted to understand how Horton conceives the &#8220;church-catholic&#8221; to be both one and united, and yet visibly divided. His statement reduced the unity of the Church to something purely invisible. So on his blog I <a href="http://www.whitehorseinn.org/blog/2011/09/17/have-denominations-had-their-day/#comment-6831" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">asked him</a> the following the question:</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">You say that the catholic Church is united (in certain respects) even though “its visible shape now seems to speak against it.” It seems to me that one could look at the present situation and see not a problem with the Church’s “visible shape,” (as though the problem is only a problem between branches within the Church) but rather *schisms from* the visible Church, as were the Donatists in the fourth century. So, what is it, exactly, in your opinion, that distinguishes a *branch within* the catholic Church, from a *schism from* the catholic Church? That is, how does one rightly determine whether a particular denomination is a *branch within* the Church, or a *schism from* the Church?</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">Michael then <a href="http://www.whitehorseinn.org/blog/2011/09/17/have-denominations-had-their-day/#comment-6837" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">replied</a>:</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">With our confessions, I’d say that this is determined by proclamation of the true gospel and the administration of the sacraments according to Christ’s institution. While no church exhibits these marks with complete purity, bodies that reject the gospel or anything essential to it and substitute their own dogmas, duties, and discipline for Christ’s institution have separated themselves from the visible Church.</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">I appreciate his reply, but I think it reveals a fundamental flaw in Reformed [and Protestant] ecclesiology. Horton&#8217;s reply defines <em>schism from</em> the Church as synonymous with heresy, and in this way eliminates the very possibility of <em>schism from</em> the Church [in the traditional sense of <em>schism from</em> as treated in the Church Fathers]. For the traditional sense of <em>schism from</em> the Church, see, for example, what the fourth century bishop St. Optatus says about schism in &#8220;<a href="http://www.calledtocommunion.com/2011/06/st-optatus-on-schism-and-the-bishop-of-rome/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">St. Optatus on Schism and the Bishop of Rome</a>.&#8221; Similarly, St. Jerome wrote:</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">Between heresy and schism there is this difference, that heresy perverts dogma, while schism, by rebellion against the bishop, separates from the Church. Nevertheless there is no schism which does not trump up a heresy to justify its departure from the Church. (In <em>Ep. ad Tit</em>., iii, 10)</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">In St. Augustine&#8217;s work titled &#8220;Of Faith and the Creed&#8221; which he delivered to the bishops assembled at the Council of Hippo-Regius in AD 393, which was the &#8220;general assembly of the North African Church,&#8221; he wrote the following:</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">Inasmuch, I repeat, as this is the case, we believe also in The Holy Church, [intending thereby] assuredly the Catholic. For both heretics and schismatics style their congregations churches. But heretics, in holding false opinions regarding God, do injury to the faith itself; while schismatics, on the other hand, in wicked separations break off from brotherly charity, although they may believe just what we believe. Wherefore neither do the heretics belong to the Church catholic, which loves God; nor do the schismatics form a part of the same, inasmuch as it loves the neighbor, and consequently readily forgives the neighbor&#8217;s sins, because it prays that forgiveness may be extended to itself by Him who has reconciled us to Himself, doing away with all past things, and calling us to a new life. And until we reach the perfection of this new life, we cannot be without sins. Nevertheless it is a matter of consequence of what sort those sins may be. (<a href="http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/1304.htm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Of Faith and the Creed</a>, 10)<sup><a href="http://www.calledtocommunion.com/2011/10/michael-horton-on-schism-as-heresy/#footnote_2_9260" id="identifier_2_9260" class="footnote-link footnote-identifier-link" title=" There St. Augustine implicitly distinguishes between mortal and venial sins. No believer on earth avoids all venial sin, but no one can be at the same time both in mortal sin and in a state of grace. ">3</a></sup></p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">To the best of my knowledge, St. Optatus, St. Jerome, St. Augustine and all the Church Fathers who wrote about schism wrote about <em>schism from</em> as something conceptually distinct from heresy. Yes, any <em>schism from</em> the Church would invariably fall into some heresy, at least in order to justify its <em>schism from</em> the Church. But, nevertheless, <em>schism from</em> the Church referred to a particular Church&#8217;s (or smaller group&#8217;s) visible break in communion with the Catholic Church (even where that particular Church or group had not embraced any heresy), whereas &#8216;heresy&#8217; always referred to a departure from the Apostolic faith, even if communion had not yet been visibly broken.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">So, it seems to me that Michael has departed from the Church Fathers in this respect, by defining <em>schism from</em> the Church as heresy, and thus eliminating from his ecclesiology the possibility of <em>schism from</em> the Church [in the traditional sense of <em>schism from</em>]. And when <em>schism from</em> the Church is defined out of existence, one loses the possibility of recognizing whether one (or anyone else) is in <em>schism from</em> the Church; it becomes a meaningless question, a question that evokes a blank face, or an attempt to translate the question into the only definition of &#8216;schism&#8217; one knows, namely, a question about heresy, which is then answered with an assurance that one is holding on to the biblical gospel and sacraments, and therefore that one is surely not in <em>schism from</em> the Church.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">When terms in the Tradition are redefined in a way that replaces (rather than develops) the essence of their meaning, then not only does this lead to ecumenical difficulties, but it also leads communities who adopt these redefinitions to a different way of seeing, in this case, a way of seeing in which <em>schism from</em> is not even conceptually visible. By redefining <em>schism from</em> the Church as heresy, the community that adopts this redefinition essentially goes blind to <em>schism from</em> the Church and to the very possibility of <em>schism from</em> the Church.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">What has happened, when a fundamental patristic concept is no longer even accessible or intelligible? This concept of <em>schism from</em> the Church dropped out of Protestant theology because the justification of the Protestant departure from the Catholic Church required an underlying radical change in ecclesiology, from an essentially visible catholic Church to an essentially invisible catholic Church with local visible expressions. This concept of <em>schism from</em> the Church is therefore no longer available (and has to be redefined as heresy to cover the semantic hole its absence would leave) in Protestant ecclesiology because the conjunction of (a) the denial of the ministerial priesthood and Holy Orders and (b) the denial of an essentially unified divinely established visible principle of unity entails that the Church is not essentially visible, and therefore that visible unity is not essential to her. But <em>schism from</em> the Church is impossible unless the Church has visible unity. Hence the Protestant move from a visible Church ecclesiology to an invisible Church ecclesiology (even though the language of &#8216;visible Church&#8217; is retained by Reformed persons) eliminated conceptually the very possibility of <em>schism from</em> the Church, and thus required redefining <em>schism from</em> as just a synonym for heresy.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">For this reason, even if Horton wanted to hold to the possibility of <em>schism from</em> the Church by claiming that the visible Church is, say, <a href="http://www.naparc.org/" target="_blank">NAPARC</a> (or some other association of Reformed denominations), he could not do so. That is because if some denominations which held to the same doctrines affirmed by NAPARC denominations were not in communion with NAPARC denominations, nothing would make those denomination the ones in <em>schism from</em> the Church, rather than the other way around. Without a divinely established visible principle of unity that serves as the defining point of reference for the location of the Church, <em>schism from</em> the Church must be redefined as &#8220;not holding to [my interpretation of Scripture regarding what is] the gospel and [my interpretation of Scripture regarding what are] the sacraments.&#8221; For Catholics, by contrast, that divinely established principle of unity is St. Peter to whom Christ entrusted the keys of the Kingdom, as St. Ambrose said: &#8220;Where Peter is, there is the Church.&#8221;<sup><a href="http://www.calledtocommunion.com/2011/10/michael-horton-on-schism-as-heresy/#footnote_3_9260" id="identifier_3_9260" class="footnote-link footnote-identifier-link" title="For the role of St. Peter as the Church&amp;#8217;s principle of unity see &amp;#8220;The Chair of St. Peter.&amp;#8221; ">4</a></sup></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Moreover, to justify redefining <em>schism from</em> as heresy, one must assume that all the early Church Fathers who addressed <em>schism from</em> the Church were deeply mistaken, having departed from the Apostolic faith regarding the nature of <em>schism from</em> the Church. In that sense, to justify departing from the Church Fathers regarding the nature of <em>schism from</em> the Church, one must presuppose some form of <a href="http://www.calledtocommunion.com/2009/07/ecclesial-deism/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">ecclesial deism</a>. Otherwise, if in their teaching concerning <em>schism from</em> the Church, the Church Fathers were faithfully preserving and defending the Apostolic faith they had received, those who are now redefining <em>schism from</em> as heresy are departing from the Apostolic faith, and thus ironically (given their own their definition of &#8216;schism&#8217;) in that respect separating themselves from the visible Church.</p>
<ol class="footnotes"><li id="footnote_0_9260" class="footnote"> See &#8220;<a href="http://www.calledtocommunion.com/2009/06/christ-founded-a-visible-church/" target="_blank">Christ Founded a Visible Church</a>.&#8221; </li><li id="footnote_1_9260" class="footnote"> See <a href="http://www.calledtocommunion.com/2011/07/habitual-sin-and-the-grace-of-the-sacraments/#comment-21592" target="_blank">comment #83</a> in the &#8220;Habitual Sin and the Grace of the Sacraments&#8221; post. </li><li id="footnote_2_9260" class="footnote"> There St. Augustine implicitly distinguishes between mortal and venial sins. No believer on earth avoids all venial sin, but no one can be at the same time both in mortal sin and in a state of grace. </li><li id="footnote_3_9260" class="footnote">For the role of St. Peter as the Church&#8217;s principle of unity see &#8220;<a href="http://www.calledtocommunion.com/2011/02/the-chair-of-st-peter/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Chair of St. Peter</a>.&#8221; </li></ol>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Is Paedocommunion a Step Towards Heresy or Orthodoxy?</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: justify;">I was blessed to spend roughly 6 years as a part of the OPC. Love them or leave them, you cannot deny their tenacity for truth and orthodoxy. While the Eastern Orthodox have been called Orthodox for a long time, there is a sense in which this denomination which began in the 1930s has &#8220;earned&#8221; this title to a greater extent, but I digress. Amongst these Presbyterians (and in other halls, such as the PCA) have blossomed the thoughts and writings of those who are roughly and grossly fit into a group that adheres to what is known as the Federal Vision (or FV, for short). This group has made many arguments that have led to many conclusions that are held by some of their adherents at varying times, and to varying degrees. The one that I&#8217;d like to focus on in this little blog post is the notion of paedocommunion.<span id="more-2523"></span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="size-full wp-image-2527 aligncenter" title="3490226417_98e780c4c1" src="http://www.calledtocommunion.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/3490226417_98e780c4c1.jpg" alt="3490226417_98e780c4c1" width="448" height="500" /></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">For full context on this debate as it was carried out in history in the OPC, please read <a href="http://www.opc.org/GA/paedocommunion.html#report">this link</a>. What&#8217;s confusing about this particular piece of Presbyterian polity is that the majority report of the General Assembly was actually the minority view; that is to say, a small committee ruled in opposition to the rest of the General Assembly that communion might be best given as soon as an infant is weaned. Now, in Presbyterian circles, a newborn can receive the sacrament of baptism. But these paedocommunion advocates would go much further and say that the partaking of bread and wine would no longer be for those who had been examined for a credible profession of faith. It would extend to the mouths of those children who were too young to explicitly sing God&#8217;s praise. It would include the same sort of criteria used for considering baptism in infants, which would amount to a huge change.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">To do this would go against the practice of all of Protestant history, but why was such a claim made?</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">As you can read from the link, a central argument in this debate is the extent to which the Lord&#8217;s Supper is paralleled to the Passover. If you consider the nature of the Paschal meal, as outlined in <a href="http://www.usccb.org/nab/bible/exodus/exodus12.htm">Exodus 12</a>, the household was to slay a lamb and have a meal of lamb and unleavened bread with the blood of the lamb placed on the doorposts of the house.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">There is much symbolism in this meal&#8211;the bread being made without leaven standing for haste, the lamb foreshadowing the crucifixion of our Lord, et cetera. But what these Presbyterian thinkers saw from this picture of the New Testament in the Old Testament was the familial nature of the meal. They considered the simple fact that at this meal, no parent would withhold the meal from their children. Instead, regardless of one&#8217;s understanding of the commemoration of the Exodus from Egypt, at any age this meal was to be celebrated.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">In considering the fact that Paul compares the Eucharist to the Passover (in <a href="http://www.usccb.org/nab/bible/1corinthians/1corinthians5.htm">1 Corinthians 5</a>, for example), it would seem that the advocate of paedocommunion has made a breakthrough. While Reformed thinkers in the past had considered Paul&#8217;s warnings about &#8220;discerning the body of our Lord&#8221; and refrained from giving out the Lord&#8217;s Supper to children who had not yet made a profession of faith, these thinkers would argue that it would stand to reason that being a member of the family is the only true criterion for sharing in the bread and the wine.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Now, there are so many things that could be said about the substance of this debate: Is the Lord&#8217;s Supper fully analogous to the Passover meal, is there a precedent of administering this sacrament among infants in writers such as Augustine, do we presume regeneration amongst the baptized (or is there baptismal regeneration?), etc.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">But what really matters here is the ultimate question: if Presbyterians moved in a united fashion to embrace paedocommunion, would that demonstrate that there is a move towards heresy or orthodoxy? Well, it all depends on whether one found the original name of Orthodox Presbyterians apt or not. When one considers the way that the PCA <a href="http://www.pcahistory.org/pca/07-fvreport.pdf">wrote about this movement in an official manner</a>, their chief rebuttal hinged upon whether these innovations were confessional or not&#8211;that is to say, whether the thoughts of these new Presbyterians matched the thoughts of those Presbyterians who worked to make the Westminster Standards in the 1640s. Of course, that puts the cart before the horse. What if the Westminster Standards were lacking, and these men who advocated paedocommunion saw these lacks in arguments such as the above mentioned Passover parallel? Ultimately, it was of no matter to the PCA&#8217;s general assembly because they chose to consider confessionalism and (dare I say) tradition over Scriptural arguments.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Of course, things get even trickier when one considers the Westminster standards themselves. The Westminster &#8220;divines&#8221; wrote this in the beginning:</p>
<blockquote style="text-align: justify;"><p>6. The whole counsel of God concerning all things necessary for His own glory, man&#8217;s salvation, faith and life, is either expressly set down in Scripture, or <strong>by good and necessary consequence may be deduced from Scripture</strong>: unto which nothing at any time is to be added, whether by new revelations of the Spirit or traditions of men. Nevertheless, we acknowledge the inward illumination of the Spirit of God to be necessary for the saving understanding of such things as are revealed in the Word: and that there are some circumstances concerning the worship of God, and government of the Church, common to human actions and societies, which are to be ordered by the light of nature, and Christian prudence, according to the general rules of the Word, which are always to be observed. (WCF I.6, emphasis added)</p></blockquote>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Of course, the whole debate over paedocommunion hinges on whether the logic of Passover is truly good and necessary, but again, the self-referential nature of the Westminster Confession was such that the OPC and the PCA brushed the thoughts of some honest Presbyterians aside in favor of Presbyterian tradition. And so even the confession itself does not offer immunity from the tension between tradition and godly innovation. By what standard ought we decide whether we are experiencing growth in truth, or a loss of doctrinal purity? There is a Latin phrase attributed to Reformed thinkers, and it goes as follows:</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">&#8220;<em>Ecclesia reformata semper reformanda est</em>&#8220;</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">which amounts to &#8220;The Reformed Church should always be Reforming&#8221;.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">That sounds all well and good on paper, but for the advocates of paedocommunion who were struck down at General Assemblies, they would say that their proposed &#8220;reformation&#8221; was godly, whereas the majority who voted in opposition viewed this as an ungodly accretion. How can this dispute be resolved?</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">This tension could perhaps be logically decided, if there really were some sort of Presbyterian Magisterium. But there isn&#8217;t and so the tension continues. May God open our eyes to ask the question of whether we are being consistent, or merely convenient.</p>
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		<title>John Calvin&#8217;s Worst Heresy: That Christ Suffered in Hell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Taylor Marshall</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Years ago while listening to Hank Hanegraaff&#8217;s Bible Answer Man radio program, a caller called in about &#8220;Christ suffering in Hell.&#8221; Hank rightly explained that &#8220;Christ suffering in Hell&#8221; is not a biblical doctrine, but noted that the doctrine was held by John Calvin. Hank respectfully disagreed with Calvin. We can argue back and forth [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Years ago while listening to Hank Hanegraaff&#8217;s<em> Bible Answer Man</em> radio program, a caller called in about &#8220;Christ suffering in Hell.&#8221; Hank rightly explained that &#8220;Christ suffering in Hell&#8221; is not a biblical doctrine, but noted that the doctrine was held by John Calvin. Hank respectfully disagreed with Calvin.</p>
<p>We can argue back and forth over Calvin&#8217;s doctrine of baptism or predestination, but Calvin is a manifest heretic regarding  Christ&#8217;s descent into hell. He breaks with Scripture and all the Fathers in this regard, and his error deserves more attention, because it shows the cracks in his systematic theology. During my three years at Westminster Theological Seminary in Philadelphia, nobody wanted to touch this with a ten-foot pole.</p>
<p>So that you can get Calvin in context, I&#8217;ve provided the full section from Calvin&#8217;s <em>Institutes of the Christian Religion </em>Book II, Chapter 16, 10 in full. The red inserts are mine.<span id="more-2412"></span></p>
<blockquote><p>But, apart from the Creed, we must seek for a surer exposition of Christ&#8217;s descent to hell: and the word of God furnishes us with one not only pious and holy, but replete with excellent consolation. Nothing had been done if Christ had only endured corporeal death. In order to interpose between us and God&#8217;s anger, and satisfy his righteous judgement, it was necessary that he should feel the weight of divine vengeance. Whence also it was necessary that he should engage, as it were, at close quarters with the powers of hell and the horrors of eternal death <span style="color: #ff0000;">[What!!! Christ suffered eternal death and the pains the hell!]</span>.</p>
<p>We lately quoted from the Prophet, that the &#8220;chastisement of our peace was laid upon him&#8221; that he &#8220;was bruised for our iniquities&#8221; that he &#8220;bore our infirmities;&#8221; <span style="color: #ff0000;">[the authors of Scripture and the Fathers apply these prophecies to the crucifixion--not to any penal condemnation in hell] </span>expressions which intimate, that, like a sponsor and surety for the guilty, and, as it were, subjected to condemnation, he undertook and paid all the penalties which must have been exacted from them, the only exception being, that the pains of death could not hold him. Hence there is nothing strange in its being said that he descended to hell, seeing he endured the death which is inflicted on the wicked by an angry God. It is frivolous and ridiculous to object that in this way the order is perverted, it being absurd that an event which preceded burial should be placed after it. But after explaining what Christ endured in the sight of man, the Creed appropriately adds the invisible and incomprehensible judgement <span style="color: #ff0000;">[so the cross as visible judgment was not enough. Christ suffered in hell...]</span> which he endured before God, to teach us that not only was the body of Christ given up as the price of redemption, but that there was a greater and more excellent price &#8211; that he <em>bore in his soul the tortures of condemned and ruined man</em>. <span style="color: #ff0000;">[So after suffering in the body on the cross, Christ's soul suffered tortures of the condemned in hell.]</span></p></blockquote>
<p>What do we make of this? Essentially, Calvin&#8217;s doctrine of <em>penal substitution</em> is the problem (something Catholicism rejects, by the way). If we understand atonement as simply &#8220;substitution,&#8221; we run into the error that Calvin has committed. Since sinners deserve <em>both</em> physical death and spiritual torment in hell we should also expect that Christ as our redeemer must also experience both physical death and hell. This logic only makes sense&#8211;except that it contradicts everything said in the New Testament about Christ&#8217;s once-for-all sacrifice. The descent into hell was not punitive in anyway, but rather triumphant as described by the Apostles and illustrated in thousands of churches, both East and West (see picture below).</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="aligncenter" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/77/Kariye_ic.jpg" alt="" width="450" /></p>
<p>This descent into Hell as Christ&#8217;s victory corresponds to the teaching of our first Pope Saint Peter: Christ &#8220;proclaimed the Gospel even to the dead&#8221; (<em><span lang="grc" xml:lang="grc">εἰς τοῦτο γὰρ καὶ νεκροῖς εὐηγγελίσθη</span></em>, <a class="biblegateway_link" href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Pet+4%3A6">&#49;&#32;&#80;&#101;&#116;&#32;&#52;&#58;&#54;</a>). Jesus wasn&#8217;t burning in the flames! He was dashing the gates of Hell, proclaiming His victory, and delivering the righteous of the Old Testament! That&#8217;s the holy Catholic and Apostolic Faith in all its beauty.</p>
<p>This &#8220;penal substitution&#8221; theory of the atonement is patently false. Christ died for us, but it wasn&#8217;t a simple swap. Christ uses the language of participation. We are to be &#8220;in Him&#8221; and we are to also carry the cross. Christ doesn&#8217;t take up the cross so that we don&#8217;t have to take up the cross. He repeatedly calls us to carry the cross. Our lives are to become &#8220;cruciform.&#8221; The New Testament constantly calls us to suffer in the likeness of Christ. Again, it&#8217;s not a clean exchange. It&#8217;s not: &#8220;Jesus suffers so that we don&#8217;t have to.&#8221; Rather <a href="http://pauliscatholic.com/2009/06/episode-3-did-paul-believe-in-the-catholic-church/" target="_blank">we participate in His redemption</a>. This is also the language of <a href="http://pauliscatholic.com" target="_blank">Saint Paul</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>For it has been granted to you that for the sake of Christ you should not only believe in him <strong>but also suffer for his sake</strong> (<a class="biblegateway_link" href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Phil+1%3A29">&#80;&#104;&#105;&#108;&#32;&#49;&#58;&#50;&#57;</a>).</p>
<p>Now I <strong>rejoice in my sufferings for your sake</strong>, and in my flesh I complete what is lacking in Christ&#8217;s afflictions for the sake of his body, that is, the Church (<a class="biblegateway_link" href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Col+1%3A24">&#67;&#111;&#108;&#32;&#49;&#58;&#50;&#52;</a>).</p></blockquote>
<p>I would challenge all Reformed readers to slowly flip through the epistles of Paul and note the occurance of &#8220;in Him&#8221; and &#8220;in Christ&#8221;. Better yet, use BibleWorks or another Bible program and run a search. You will quickly see that &#8220;in Him&#8221; and &#8220;in Christ&#8221; is the universal soteriological category for Saint Paul&#8211;not <a href="http://pauliscatholic.com/2009/06/episode-4-justified-by-faith-or-by-faith-alone/" target="_blank">justification</a> or <a href="http://pauliscatholic.com/2009/06/episode-5-saint-paul-on-baptism-and-being-born-again/" target="_blank">regeneration</a>.</p>
<p>According to Catholic Christianity, Christian salvation involves the vindication of Christ&#8217;s unjust death on the cross. God does not &#8220;hate&#8221; His Son. This is impossible. God does not &#8220;turn away&#8221; from His Son. Luther introduced this false tension and it has led to Calvin&#8217;s grievous heresy. Saint Paul speaks of &#8220;overcoming death&#8221; as the true victory of Christ &#8211; not His being the whipping boy of the Father.</p>
<p>I should stop there and open up the comments:</p>
<ul>
<li>Have I depicted Calvin rightly?</li>
<li>If you&#8217;re Reformed, do you agree with Calvin? If so, how does his view not denigrate the cross?</li>
<li>If you&#8217;re Catholic, how has the redemptive model of participation enabled you better understand your own salvation?</li>
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<p>If you want to learn more about how Catholic theology stresses the Pauline doctrine of &#8220;participation,&#8221; please visit <a href="http://pauliscatholic.com" target="_blank">The Catholic Perspective on Paul</a> and consider listening to some of the <a href="http://pauliscatholic.com/category/podcasts/" target="_blank"><em>Catholic Paul</em> Podcasts: click here</a>.</p>
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