Episode 5 – John Kincaid’s Conversion

Jun 27th, 2009 | By | Category: Podcast

John Kincaid

Tom Riello interviews CTC’s newest member, John Kincaid, on his conversion to the Catholic Church. John Kincaid is a doctoral candidate at Ave Maria University. This is more than a typical conversion story and a bit longer than our previous podcasts but well worth the listen. John shares some insightful theology and gives us a glimpse into why this former Calvinist decided to enter into full communion with the Catholic Church.

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  1. To those who have not listened to the podcast as of yet, it is a must listen! I am biased, you say, but let me tell it straight to the point, I had the privilege to do the interview and I was sitting in a hot garage in the heat of the deep South when talking to John and there were times where I forgot that I was interviewing because all I wanted to do was listen. In fact, like reading a good book that you don’t want to end, I felt that our time went by way too quickly.

  2. Amazing story John. I am greatly encouraged by God’s work in your life. Your discussion of God’s sovereign control over history, his promise for an enduring Church, and the inability of Protestantism to make sense out of this seemlingly broken promise, resonated deeply with me. I hope to join you soon. I met with my PCA pastor last Monday and next Sunday (once we return home from vacation) we will begin to attend Mass at St. Mary’s Church in Annapolis and hopefully we will be recieved into full communion as soon as possible.

    In prayer for you and your family, Jeremy

  3. It was a great interview–am looking forward to reading your analysis of the New Perspective on Paul and as it relates to Catholicism.

  4. Technical question: How come some of this site’s podcasts play on my computer at hyperspeed? Some are normal speed, but in some the guys sound like Alvin and the Chipmunks. Thoughts?

  5. We very much like Alvin and the Chipmunks.


  6. Neal is absolutely correct. We do like Alvin & the Chipmunks. We thought it would be a way to differentiate ourselves from other boring “normal speed” podcasts. Been there done that.

    Actually in all seriousness I don’t know why that’s happening. It works fine on my computer. Did you try downloading the mp3 ? Also, which episode(s) are playing abnormally? I’ll try to get to the bottom of it. Thanks for letting us know about it.

  7. Podcasts 1 and 2 sound fine, but 3, 4 & 5 are abnormal. Thanks for checking into it.

  8. again, superb: you guys are a real encouragement. book recommendations at the end of the podcast: thanks very much for that. pretty handy.

    = : )

  9. Is anybody going to the Deep in History Conference in October? My wife and I are thinking about going. Here’s the link;


    Peace in Christ, Jeremy

  10. Jeremy,

    If you and your wife are able to go, go! You will not regret it. The Coming Home Network, Jim and Rob, are salt of the earth people. The Conference is really like a community gathering. The time after the talks is worth as much if not more than the talks. Getting together with many who, like yourself, have just entered or about to enter the Church will provide you a solid network of support. My wife and I still remain in touch with people we met when we went.

  11. Thanks John! Great stuff! I had the privilege of meeting John in PA some time ago. What in-depth conversations we had! Stay in touch! Greetings from the Nordic Finland!

  12. Great interview! Thanks for posting.

  13. Thank you guys. Excellent podcast.

    John: very helpful. You verbalize in a coherent and logical manner many of the elusive thoughts (or germs of thoughts) that bounce around in my mind.

    Blessings and Peace.


  14. Kevin,

    Thank you very much for the kind words and encouragement!


  15. John – we were blessed through the ministry of Mark Dalbey in coming to an understanding of Covenant Theology (Cincinnati/Trinity Christian School, etc) We have continued in that tradition; though increasingly of late, we have been blessed particularly by writings growing from the Catholic tradition. We’ve had an increasing sense that there is something there that we have missed in our tendancy toward denominational isolationism. In reading the story of your personal family journey, we also found your theological links. – fascinating stuff which resonates with where we find our own leanings. . . Don’t know where this is going – where God is leading us, but you have brilliantly given voice to some of our initial whispers . . . Look forward to continuing to study and the excitement of knowing that all of truth isn’t neatly wrapped up by a few carefully constructed bullet points!

    Bless you, John – your journey and that of others shared through “Called to Communion” has been an inspiration! We pray for you and your dear little family, too!

  16. Podcasts 1 – 5 do not have a usable link to download these mp3 files.


  17. Ming – Sorry this took forever to respond. Podcast 5 is fixed and 1-4 can be downloaded here. Thanks for bringing that to our attention.

  18. John and Tom,

    Just wanted to thank you again for this podcast – I was relistening to it a week ago or so, and it really spoke to some questions I’m wrestling with (long story). You both should do a podcast again – would love to hear an update from John on how his research is going, what he’s now reading of interest, or really anything. Also, I’ve never quite found the words for this, but Tom your brief wrapups at the end of the podcast are always such an encouragement and a blessing.

    I have a somewhat easy factual question for John. At about 10:09 in the podcast you mention a book that I’d be very interested in reading – it sounds like you are saying “Serveus Pinkerer’s _Morality_” was a book you read in seminary. I can’t find anyone with that name (or any variant spelling I’ve been able to think up), and of course searching for books with the title of “Morality” returns about a billion results. Any chance you could correct my spelling for the author’s name & title, or perhaps even give an Amazon link?

    Seriously, even though it’s >2 years old, this has been a major blessing to me each time I listen to it. Thanks a lot – and, hint hint, would love to hear you two doing another podcast together. :-)


  19. Benjamin,

    The book John mentioned is Servais Pinckaers’ Morality: The Catholic View (South Bend, IN: St. Augustine’s Press), which is something like a summary of his larger Sources of Christian Ethics. Pinckaers was an influential moral theologian and Dominican priest who was a revitalizing factor in post-conciliar moral theology. He died only recently.


  20. Benjamin,

    Thank you. I remember doing that podcast like it was yesterday. It was a Friday night and I really enjoyed it. John’s story was fascinating.

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