Comments on: No Argument of the Emptiness: Edwards and Irenaeus on the End of the World http://www.calledtocommunion.com/2009/03/no-argument-of-the-emptiness-edwards-and-irenaeus-on-the-end-of-the-world/ Reformation meets Rome Fri, 10 Feb 2012 02:00:30 +0000 hourly 1 By: Neal Judisch http://www.calledtocommunion.com/2009/03/no-argument-of-the-emptiness-edwards-and-irenaeus-on-the-end-of-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-20878 Neal Judisch Fri, 26 Aug 2011 17:19:58 +0000 http://www.calledtocommunion.com/?p=682#comment-20878 Thanks for the note, Marcia. I would have to put some more thought into the question before I made an outright identification of divine glory with the love shared/made manifest within us, though I am very sympathetic to this kind of orientation. Again, thanks for your remarks. Blessings to you and yours, Neal Thanks for the note, Marcia. I would have to put some more thought into the question before I made an outright identification of divine glory with the love shared/made manifest within us, though I am very sympathetic to this kind of orientation. Again, thanks for your remarks. Blessings to you and yours,

Neal

]]> By: Marcia Brim http://www.calledtocommunion.com/2009/03/no-argument-of-the-emptiness-edwards-and-irenaeus-on-the-end-of-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-20869 Marcia Brim Fri, 26 Aug 2011 00:20:05 +0000 http://www.calledtocommunion.com/?p=682#comment-20869 I tagged your article as a favorite sometime ago. I returned to it today and reread these words, "And just as the Father shares His life and love with the Son, and thereby glorifies Him, so too with us:" For sometime I have been asking and concluding that God's glory is the manifestation of his love within the beloved. That manifestation is obviously sourced to the Trinity, and out of the overflow of the love of the Godhead we share both in this love made manifest in us and its glory. So my question is, could love made manifiest and God's glory be the same thing? If not how are they seperate or differnt? Needless to say, it is my meditations on John 17 that cause me to suspect this association. What do you think? Thanks, Marcia P.S. I love this article. Thanks for taking the time to write it. I tagged your article as a favorite sometime ago. I returned to it today and reread these words, “And just as the Father shares His life and love with the Son, and thereby glorifies Him, so too with us:” For sometime I have been asking and concluding that God’s glory is the manifestation of his love within the beloved. That manifestation is obviously sourced to the Trinity, and out of the overflow of the love of the Godhead we share both in this love made manifest in us and its glory. So my question is, could love made manifiest and God’s glory be the same thing? If not how are they seperate or differnt? Needless to say, it is my meditations on John 17 that cause me to suspect this association. What do you think?
Thanks, Marcia
P.S. I love this article. Thanks for taking the time to write it.

]]> By: Neal Judisch http://www.calledtocommunion.com/2009/03/no-argument-of-the-emptiness-edwards-and-irenaeus-on-the-end-of-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-286 Neal Judisch Sat, 21 Mar 2009 14:42:24 +0000 http://www.calledtocommunion.com/?p=682#comment-286 Thanks, Tom. That's a beautiful passage. Neal Thanks, Tom. That’s a beautiful passage.

Neal

]]> By: Tom http://www.calledtocommunion.com/2009/03/no-argument-of-the-emptiness-edwards-and-irenaeus-on-the-end-of-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-282 Tom Thu, 19 Mar 2009 22:42:48 +0000 http://www.calledtocommunion.com/?p=682#comment-282 Neal, Your post reminds me of Gaudium Et Spes, "Indeed, the Lord Jesus, when He prayed to the Father, "that all may be one. . . as we are one" (John 17:21-22) opened up vistas closed to human reason, for He implied a certain likeness between the union of the divine Persons, and the unity of God's sons in truth and charity. This likeness reveals that man, who is the only creature on earth which God willed for itself, cannot fully find himself except through a sincere gift of himself "(24) The Catechism goes on to explain what this means: man has been made to share in the very life of God (CCC 356). Neal,

Your post reminds me of Gaudium Et Spes, “Indeed, the Lord Jesus, when He prayed to the Father, “that all may be one. . . as we are one” (John 17:21-22) opened up vistas closed to human reason, for He implied a certain likeness between the union of the divine Persons, and the unity of God’s sons in truth and charity. This likeness reveals that man, who is the only creature on earth which God willed for itself, cannot fully find himself except through a sincere gift of himself “(24) The Catechism goes on to explain what this means: man has been made to share in the very life of God (CCC 356).

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